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Ontario’s pit bull ban upheld

Posted on November 11, 2008
Filed Under represent! | 46 Comments

Canwest News Service
Published: Friday, October 24, 2008

Ontario pitbull ban stands

TORONTO — The Ontario Court of Appeal on Friday re-affirmed a law banning pit bull-type dogs in the province.

Last month, lawyer Clayton Ruby told a three-judge panel the definition of a pit bull under the Dog Owner’s Liability Act is vague because it snares dozens of breeds that look like pit bulls, but are other breeds, half-breeds or mutts.

Ruby said Friday he was disappointed by the ruling.

“Sadly, the absolute and unnecessary ban on ‘pit bulls’ in Ontario remains,” the lawyer said in a statement.

“We are very disappointed with the decision of the court of appeal. We continue to believe that the definition of ‘pit bull’ is overly broad and vague. The evidence clearly demonstrates that the definition captures dogs that pose no threat to any person or animal.”

He added the court has simply accepted the government’s assertion that there is a ‘reasoned apprehension of harm’ about ‘pit bulls’ to justify the ban, without allowing opponents to show that there is no credible evidence to support this.

Under the provincial law, pit bulls are defined as American pit bull terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, American Staffordshire bull terrier or any dog that looks similar.

Owners are required to have their dogs neutered, muzzled and on a leash in public.

Violators face a maximum penalty of $10,000 and six months in jail.

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Comments

46 Responses to “Ontario’s pit bull ban upheld”

  1. selwyn marock on November 11th, 2008 5:59 am

    This was the most BIASED Judgement I had ever heard,it was based
    on nothing.You will note the Judges remained anonymous I was not surprised at this,the question I would like to have asked them “SIMPLY HOW MUCH” was settled in little envelopes by the GENOCIDAL
    MANIACS Bentley, Bryant and Maguinty of this fact I have little doubt.You also have the problem with the Toronto Star whose newspaper always leans towards these Liberals.
    The Animal lovers of Toronto are now paying a price for not removing these Neo-Nazis 3 years ago,now they have to wait for the next election and they MUST do whatever necessary to remove the Liberals otherwise it will get worse as these Nazis
    thrive on NOTORIETY it feeds their EGO’s.
    “ALL THAT IS NEEDED FOR EVIL TO SUCCEED IS THAT DECENT HUMAN
    BEINGS DO NOTHING”-EDMUND BURKE

  2. admin on November 11th, 2008 2:40 pm

    Im confused, you’re saying the liberals are the nazis? Liberals and Nazis are very different and liberals usually dont ban pitbulls, conservatives do and possibly nazis. This ban really sucks though, I went to Vancouver recently and its amazing to see such a different attitude on the other side of the country. Its the same in the US, we’re split right down the middle, McCain actually had a pretty good chance of winning and he would have passed more bans. great quote, let’s rise up!

  3. selwyn marock on November 20th, 2008 2:00 am

    Admin as far as I understand in Onscario this is run by a Thug by the name of MçGuinty of the Liberal party more commonly known
    as the Fiberals,and his 2 Henchmen ,Bryant and Bentley who appear to have the judges under control,as the Anonymous judge ruled “Pitbulls are known to be unpredictable” HElloooooo Humans
    are more unpredictable as we are well aware.Once again HOW MUCH WERE THEY SETTLED BY THE NEO_NAZIS?
    Regarding the US as far as I am concerned there is only 1 solution to stopping this Cancer called BSL,and that is to create a Deputation to President-elect Obama who banned
    this EVIL in his state when he was Senator and I do not think
    that Blatant Racism works for him.
    To try and attack this problem by writing sweet letters to
    Mayors with statistics is an absolute waste of time.They are just not interested,the more they are failing on real issues,the more they will bring laws they attack the law-abiding.
    Will give a quote from Albert Einstein “THE WORLD IS A DANGEROUS
    PLACE NOT BECAUSE THOSE THAT DO EVIL, BUT THOSE THAT LOOK ON
    AND DO NOTHING”

  4. admin on March 1st, 2009 4:14 pm

    If this post it bullshit, dont blame me. Look at the link where I got it from and blame them.

  5. Mike on April 10th, 2009 6:56 pm

    I own a Rottie/amstaff mix and Im getting posted to petawawa Ont. Can I bring my 8mth old with me? I can’t leave him behind… I just can’t. I have 3 kids and 4 cats, and my dog loves us all to death. He is very sad when Im not with him. You should see him when I come home.. He is super happy to see me..lol

  6. admin on April 14th, 2009 11:59 pm

    sadly im pretty sure its all of Ontario that has the ban.. I know what you mean.. I couldnt go anywhere my dog isnt allowed. It would be like abandoning a kid, especially after having her for 10 years now.

  7. John Taylor on April 23rd, 2009 4:06 pm

    I found your blog on Google. I’ve bookmarked it and will watch out for your next blog post.

  8. Doug H on June 11th, 2009 2:58 pm

    Finally we will be rid of all PIT BULL LIKE dogs in Ontario.I will never leave this wonderfull Province.If I see one of these DEVIL DOGS I will run as fast as I can to the nearest authority and report it.They are VICIOUS!!!! If they need someone to hold the gas mask or plunge the needle in one of these KILLERS I will be there waiting anxiously for my turn.

  9. katya on June 11th, 2009 3:06 pm

    well Doug, Id be interested to hear what you think about black people because you are obviously the most racist, ignorant person in the whole of Canada. congratulations!

  10. Doug H on June 12th, 2009 3:12 pm

    Just Pits and Rotty’s thanks.

  11. Doug on June 12th, 2009 3:58 pm

    Speaking of IGNORANT people.What about the people who say ” there is no proof that Pits are any more dangerous than any other breed of dog”. I have seen way too many news articles and video footage of Pit Bulls who their owners thought they were perfectly harmless some time before their SWEET PETS ripped apart one of their own kids or neighbors kids or pets.And still some of them say it wasn’t the dogs fault,it was just a reaction from them that is natural.All the while their kid is lying in a hospital bed ( and sometimes a morgue!!! ) disfigured for life.Please don’t give me the ” It’s the fault of the owner” excuse.It is bred ( inter-bred ) into these dogs pure and simple.For you to bring Black People into this leaves me thinking there may be some racist tendencies on your part though.If me HATING these dogs and Rotty’s is what you call RACIST and ignorant so be it.But take a look deep inside and ask yourself why you did bring Black people into this discussion.

  12. Ashley A on June 14th, 2009 2:29 pm

    This is the epidomy of ignorance blaming so called statistics on a whole breed, it absoultely ridiculouse. Being a Pit bull owner myself i know first hand what loving and gentel creatures these dogs are, its too bad the idiots that we call politicains forget that the circumstances a dog is raised in whether it be pent up or kept without good exercise and discipline makes the dog anxious and angry, and most people belive the so called rep that pitbulls have of being blood suckers and raise thier own pit bulls like that, we need to get these people the information they actually need!

  13. zach on June 16th, 2009 5:39 pm

    You see ive owned a pitbull before, how come he never attacked me.OH AND BY THE WAY DOUG did you hear about how a chiwawa riped of a 3 year old girls face off and killed her, they even said nothing was rong with the dog, so next time dont bring that bs into it, because ANY dog can attack, get your facts stright, i bet if you heard about rottys killing people all the time you would be like omg ban them, because you know what you dont know shit about this dog so what you need to do is shut the fuck UP!

  14. Doug on July 5th, 2009 4:51 pm

    Katya: I see you have no response.I guess you didn’t like what you saw when you looked into the mirror.

  15. Katya on July 5th, 2009 10:11 pm

    Or… I was in Mexico for a few weeks and don’t think there’s much point telling you anything that isn’t already on this website. There’s enough info here to persuade a Nazi to love Jews let alone you but you’re too busy saying totally rediculous things to read the supported data and facts in the site. I won’t Argue with idiots.

  16. Doug on July 7th, 2009 12:59 pm

    Good luck with your Devil Dogs.Some day someone on here or a family will get ATTACKED by their own DEVIL DOG and maybe then you will understand.WATCH YOUR AND YOUR KIDS backs.

  17. katya on July 7th, 2009 1:08 pm

    Fear is pathetic but go ahead and live in it. There is no such thing as an evil animal only evil people. Once you see this (ahem.. mirror) you’ll understand why it’s impossible to blame an animal for anything really. Its as possible that ALL pitbulls are dangerous as it is that ALL black people will rob you. Thats why its racial profiling, yes, even animals are victims of profiling. The “pibul problem” goes way beyond what is natural for the breed due to horrible people training them this way. It is not a pitbull thing its on an individual basis as with people of all races as well. If you believe that every single pitbul is evil you by default believe that all of a race of humans can be evil as well. There is no difference. No entire breed, race or group of ANYTHING is identical or capable of the same good or bad things. This is why animals and humans have personalities and the capability to learn and react to different environments. You talk about pitbulls as if they are a clone army. Bad dogs just like bad people are a product of their environment. fact.

  18. chephy on July 23rd, 2009 9:01 pm

    Dear Doug!

    Congratulations! It’s rare to find a refreshing post like yours, but hurray, here it is! We’ve been looking high and low for the “Internet Dumbass of the Month” award, but none of the comments, blog entries and forum posts I’ve come across, as ridiculous as some were, quite cut the mustard. But here I finally find a wonderful example worthy of such a title. You are it, Doug! A pure, genuine, premium grade-A choice-cut first-class dumbass with distinction! Let me know where to send the certificate.

  19. Doug on July 24th, 2009 11:07 am

    Maybe you had better save the certificate for now.One day soon you or someone else who has one of these POISON’S will get chewed on and then you can send it to them.Now I’m done with posting on here but I am sure it will go on forever untill the enevitable happens.If you ever need someone to help destroy these MONSTERS I am the one to help.And I would have no qualms about it.

  20. shane on August 28th, 2009 9:48 pm

    “man is the only animal that kills for plesure” we rape, torture, make clothes out of peoples skin, watch videos of people killing themselves online or people killing other people, we have snuff videos pedophiles scat beastiality people living on the street aids an that doesnt even start to put in to perspective the infinite degenerate behavior of the human race and we are baning an animal because its an animal that we tamed and brought into OUR sespool of existance to put up with our crap to do as we say or pay the price. show me one area that we havent failed in and then tell me we have the right to decide the fate of a creature we didnt create and know next to nothing about (dispite what we think we know) mabey we should ban lions and tiger snakes rats raccoons bears hell lets exterminate them all what does it matter thier only animals right WRONG!!!!!!! im embarassed and ashamed to call myself human we are petty wittless creatures and im inclined to believe that we are some form of virus that leaches off and kills what ever we come in contact with and eventually it will be ourselves and doug reading your posts wasted minutes of my life that i will never get back and its sad to think that you are still wasting my air

  21. shane on August 28th, 2009 9:52 pm

    and before anyone gets out that well anticipated quip about my speelling and grahmer let me tell you now if your petty enough to waste your time writing it or just didnt uderstand wat i said in the simplest terms i can i tell you i do not care

  22. tessie dog on November 3rd, 2009 8:08 am

    fuck you doug

  23. Pierre on November 6th, 2009 5:17 pm

    I’m just saying, I’ve had 3 rottweilers and i currently have my second pitbull and they’ve been in multiple dog shows. They are the most athletic amazing breed you can own, they are extremely caring. I get compliments on my dogs everyday on how beautiful and intelligent they are. I’m only happy I don’t live in Ontario, I feel sorry for you who cannot enjoy one of (if not the) best breeds of dogs in the world.

  24. Jacky on January 10th, 2010 9:18 am

    Ok hello everyone my name is Jacky i absulutley love pitbulls my neibors across the street have two there names are lucy and fido. Fido is suffering from a tummer and lucy has never even hurt a flie. My own dog jasmin loves them and they are best friends unfortanitly fido may pass on soon as he has been fighting his tummer for long he is getting older. My point is this so called “DOUG” is a: a loser b:has no life and c: is a load of crap how i know this is because all the pit bulls i know have never hurt any one or anything and trust me i know alot of pit balls and from what Ceazer Million has tote me the olny way a pit bull would hurt a person is because their owner is a complete and tottle idiot! And by the way my name is jacky im 12 years old and i believe that no dog is bad :)

  25. Alvarado on March 15th, 2010 11:17 am

    I’m afraid that the Pit bull requires a unique sort of proprietor…these pet dogs, regardless of how ‘trusting’ still have teeth, are still creatures without having moral principles and when they DO bite, won’t allow go. As in all creatures…some often be more suseptable to instinctual behavior and time and time once again, this breed tends to complete just that.

  26. Kate on March 17th, 2010 2:45 pm

    Doug you’re a worthless racist piece of garbage, and if you ever get a dog (don’t care what kind) I hope it rips your friggin head right off. Don’t hate an animal for what it is, there are plenty of dogs out there that arent pit pulls that have attacked AND killed people, but you obviously are content with ignoring that. If you ask me, YOU are the monster, you’re so damn bloodthirsty you’re content to just blame one species so that you can have the pleasure of eradicating them. You’re sick and disgusting, and YOU should be put down so that you can’t hurt anyone.

  27. john on March 24th, 2010 12:46 pm

    I am the owner of a beautiful pit mix. The worst thing about this ban is my dog has become so desocialized that now she seems exhibit all the bad tendencies that have villified pits over the years. She has been bitten three times while on a leash and muzzled by other dogs whose owners are irresponsible and let their dog roam free to terorize. Had my dog done the same she’d be put down. Before the ban my dog was so well adjusted and got along with all dogs and people. Now she still loves people but get edgy and nervous when she sees other dogs. When will the politicians wake up and realize it has to go after the owners and make them responsible not the breed. The idiots that owned pits have moved onto bigger and stronger dogs and soon we will see more bans on other breeds. Its time to ban bad owners not the poor dogs. I just feel sorry for my dog because she can no longer play and get the exercise and socialization that she craves and needs. the ban has just made her a worse tempered dog.

  28. fuckdoug on April 16th, 2010 1:56 pm

    I hope doug gets cancer of the eyes.

  29. Ashley D on May 22nd, 2010 7:57 am

    Well i definitely a am a supporter of pitties and rotties i do and have owned both in the past now i own a champagne/pinto colored/green hazel eyed amstaff who is dear to our children and family as a whole whos name is rock he is being trained. I would have to say that a well trained dog from birth will be a loving companion. if you teach them bad habits or if you leave them alone or mistreat them in any way , then yes they could turn against you. Train your children as well as your dogs. when you can communicate with your pack you will all be happier. Im sorry for the poor fella here who seems to have stayed indoors to long . doug i believe, and any others who supported the ban, yall need to get out and enjoy the world and dogs too. have patience be loving and kind and those things will be reflected upon you.

  30. Mike on November 3rd, 2010 11:21 pm

    One more stupid law made by ignorant people. pitbulls are no more naturally violent than any other breed, they are simply more commonly trained as attack dogs by there violent owners. If the ontario government is banning pitbulls for being unpredictable they should ban humans also as humans are by nature far more violent and unpredictable than any animal. That is a fact.

  31. unknown on January 12th, 2012 4:36 am

    @doug I hope you die a slow painful death you piece of shit.

  32. Luke on February 6th, 2012 7:21 pm

    Love this Pitbull vieo

  33. Melissa on April 27th, 2012 3:32 pm

    Are you kidding me?? Is this Doug guy serious?? Doug i have a question for you are you blind and retarded or just ignorant? Have you ever actually owned a rotti or a pit bull because i have the privilege of owning one of the most Amazing rotti’s i have ever known who wouldn’t hurt a fly i also have a chihua hua and a pug in the house hold and she loves them and plays ever so gently with them!! It is not the FREAKING dog’s that are to blame it’s the owner so maybe you should pull your head out of your closed off space and realize YOU are wrong to judge….. I have also raised a bluenose razor edge gotti line pit bull puppy and he is also one of the most amazing dogs i have ever loved as well…… He plays with kittens is amazing with my niece and has the personality of a child…. Get over your judgmental self and learn the facts before stating such a bland “only thinking you know when you don’t” opinion!!!!! You act as if you study dogs and know EVERYTHING!! You sicken me and about everyone else commenting on this page… You are just another low life hater with nothing to do other then tell on people who have these dogs because you have a crappy life! Enough said

  34. Melissa on April 27th, 2012 3:34 pm

    P.S doug i hope you get maled by a mountain lion and die … because they can’t ban wild animals… lmao

  35. Melissa on April 27th, 2012 4:40 pm

    mauled** pardon my spelling error!!!

  36. Jennifer on April 27th, 2012 5:35 pm

    Proud to be in bc! Were pitbulls are loved, i hope one day Ontario will open their eyes and see their beauty! Love my 2 gorgeous and loving pitbulls. Oh and Doug I hope that you choke on the shit thats pouring out of your mouth. :)

  37. Jennifer on April 27th, 2012 5:37 pm

    Proud to be in bc! Were pitbulls are loved, i hope one day Ontario will open their eyes and see their beauty! Love my 2 gorgeous and loving pitbulls. Oh and Doug I hope that you choke on the crap thats pouring out of your mouth. 

  38. Alison on May 7th, 2012 10:50 am

    Hi
    What an amazing array of comments. They all stand out and are unique. It is unfortunate that people do not take the time to understand what they fear, because it is fear that keeps them from understanding and accepting and essentially missing out on a beautiful thing. Pitbulls are no different than any other breed of dog or animal for that matter. There are more dog bites from smaller dogs and other breeds than from pitbulls. It is unfortunate that some people (who will remain nameless) find cause to want to eradicate pitbulls. This could start a violent trend. People use pitbulls for fighting, simply because they can and because pitbulls are stoic creatures and want to please their pet guardians. If they do not use pitbulls, they will find another breed (and they have). There is no fact to support that pitbulls are the worst dog on Earth. In fact, I feel the opposite. I have been surrounded by them and would feel more comfortable in a room filled with them than in a room with one particular type of dog, that will remain breedless. Pitbulls are gentle and kind and yes, some have bitten, but so have shepherds, yorkies, etc. There is no reason to ban them. People like Michael Vic abuse them, they have been found hung, beaten, raped, teeth removed, strangled, electrocuted, etc. And someone wants to eradicate the breed? What about the humans that are doing this to the dog? I don’t believe in eradication, I believe in dealing with the issue and finding a peaceful resolve. Comments about wishing that one particular person on this thread be eradicated or die, etc, are not acceptable, it only escalates the problem. Perhaps the one person on this thread whose remarks have created such controversy could join those of us who are associated with pitbulls and spend some time, understood the breed, visit with the breed, get to know the breed and after time of getting to know the breed, then make an educated and personal decision, rather than one based on embellished, superhyped, mass media, animal exploitation paparazzi, journalist crazed newspaper articles that have created unnecessary hype and undo mass hysteria. I’m sure that after time spent with pitbulls they will surely change and realize that what fears us will kill us. Pitbulls can be just as gentle as bunny rabbits (did you know that they bite, too?) and other dogs can bite just as hard as pits. I love pitbulls, will defend them until the end. Humans, well, they are the ones that are unpredictable and rape, murder, torture and abuse their own race, plus animals and their environment. Humans are the ones to be a little leary of, unfortunately, rather than precious pitbulls. Spreading a little peace and love to everyone, it makes a difference. If you open your heart to this, (and your arms) a pitbull will come running to give you kisses and hug you right back.

  39. Alison on May 7th, 2012 11:40 am

    TO RE-ITERATE – PITBULL FIGHTING IS WRONG AND SHOULD BE DEALTH WITH MY APPROPRIATE MEASURES JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CRIMINAL ACT. PITBULL FIGHTING SHOULD BE BANNED. NOT THE BREED. It is humans that are creating the problem with the breed, not the breed itself. It is best to get facts straight. Opinions should be based on personal experience, education and understanding, not fear and sensationalized newspaper articles and reporting. Please sign petitions to remove the current ban on pitbulls in Ontario. Ban the irresponsible owners NOT the breed.

  40. Alison on May 7th, 2012 11:42 am

    I apologize for the grammatical errors – dealt (not dealth) and by (not my). Please help to end and stop any animal abuse, cruelty and violence.

  41. Tiffany on July 15th, 2012 11:45 am

    Doug you truly an ignorant sap! We had our APBT for fifteen years now and not once has he given us a reason to fear him! He lives inside the house with us day and night and sleeps with us! He is loyal and loving and though old, still plays like a puppy! I’m 20 years old! So we had our boy since I was 5 years of age and not a single thing has happened! Not a growl, not an aggressive stance, not a nip, not a single bad thing!! Also he has never been neutered nor was he bred! We actually have an intact American Pit Bull Terrier whom we love and have owned for 15 years and going!! Also I have a 2 year old blue APBT/AST hybrid who was physically and mentally abused by former owners and fears ppl yet does not growl or bark at anyone! I don’t let anyone near him unless I’m there and am in control of the situation but that is living proof that the “Devil Dog” you see is an Angel to all of us who are Pro-Pit!! Thank for your time!

  42. jay on January 14th, 2013 4:45 pm

    DOUG FOR PRESIDENT!

  43. jay on January 14th, 2013 4:52 pm

    THIS DOUG GUY IS THE MAN everyone on this forum HAS OR HAS OWNED A PITBULL therefore your opinions are biased. FUCK DOGS PERIOD who the fuck likes picking up dog shit spending extra uneccesary money and risk getting sued? ALL you dog fanatics need to get a fuckning career or get laid DOGS ARE A WASTE OF TIME AND ARE A PROBLEM n for those of you who are going to reply saying “MY DOG IS MY BEST FRIEND I HAVE A DOG BECAUSE OF ITS COMPANY” ever heard of a fuckng girlfriend? or maybe paperview? you guys keep picking up shit off the ground and half of the dog owners i have seen can barely support themselves IF YOU LOVE ANIMALS LET SOMEONE WHO CAN AFFORD IT OWN IT get ur life on track before you wanna raise another life.

  44. Bryant on March 7th, 2013 11:27 pm

    Write more, thats all I have to say. Literally, it seems as though you relied on
    the video to make your point. You obviously know what youre talking about,
    why throw away your intelligence on just posting videos to your site when
    you could be giving us something informative to read?

  45. Melissa on March 8th, 2013 11:48 am

    Jay, you make me laugh! Hahaha you make absolutely no sense first you go on about how dogs are a waste of money and time ( what is pay-per-view? Television is a waste of time and ordering shows and movies are a waste of money) I’d much rather take my dog for a walk then sit in front of a television and fry my brain cells and vegg. And get laid? I don’t think that has anything to do with having a dog lol. Then at the end you say you should only have one if you can afford one! Well, no duh! But that’s not the case nor the arguement here now is it? I think you need to get a life if you don’t like animals then why are you on a site about a breed of dog? Point made! Go watch your movies and get laid and mind your own!

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